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    Dave's Picks Vol. 51: Scranton Catholic Youth Center, Scranton, PA (4/13/71)

    Look out Big Boss Man, Pigpen's on the loose! We're shedding our lovelight on the not-to-be-overlooked Spring 1971 tour with DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51, featuring the complete unreleased show from the SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 AND the 2nd set from the previous night at the Pittsburgh Civic Arena in Pittsburgh, PA on 4/12/71.

    These gems find the original Grateful Dead quintet delivering some of their most inspired, energetic, and tightest performances. There's a dab of WORKINGMAN'S DEAD, a splash of AMERICAN BEAUTY, a great foreshadow into what would soon appear on SKULL & ROSES. And you'll need nearly all those fingers (or those toes) because - count 'em - there's eight classic covers ("Mama Tried," "Hard To Handle," and a rare "I Second That Emotion," to name a few) done as only the Dead could do them with Mr. McKernan and his magical harmonica.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51: SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

    P.S. We had a little extra room on Disc 2, so please enjoy the final five DP48 bonus tracks to complete 10/24/70, St. Louis, MO.

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  • Hippygeorge62
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    My God, this was a good buy!…

    My God, this was a good buy! Just one word...Energy! Thanks Dave!

  • Gary Farseer
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    Did Dick's 30 a couple of weekends back. Just love the Bo Diddly.

    Cant remember which song he has a minor discussion about you got to "Eat it, eat all of it." If memory is correct.

    Has to be a reference to we ate the acid, especially at that Hell's Angel benefit. Haha benefit, right.

  • Gary Farseer
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    my found on road dead

    had to be towed to mechanic. (Of course towed is an out dated word)

    After car was loaded, the drive said "Thank You Big Boss Man."

    Nice.

    It is amazing how 99% of the people react when meeting them, you treat them with kindness.

    Of course, you have to learn how to watch and scope manipulators.

    He was genuinely kind also.

    That is all.

  • Vguy72
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    RIP Dick Latvala....

    ....play a Dicks tonight.
    I picked out #30. Bo Diddly y'all!

  • Gary Farseer
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    Hmmmm

    The Golden Road (to Unlimited Devotion.)

    I Second that Emotion.

    Not Fade Away.

    The Call of two songs and the response of one.

  • Oroborous
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    Oh boy, “that would be something”
    Fine show from another great under represented year!
    Yep, need to hit that MSG box again soon…

    Baked Alaska: as much as I’d enjoy that fantasy box, I’d much rather have this April 78. The Alaska shows are good, but I think I recall only one being exceptional? And I’m unfamiliar with the 70 shows, but even IF they were on primo recordings, would that be enough to justify using up a coveted “once a year only” box slot?
    But hey, sorry your not happy this go round. Maybe it will be a late addition, perhaps just in time for the holidaze? Remember when they used to market for the holidaze? And maybe sometime you’ll get shown the light and find a new found affinity for April 78? Whatevs…it’s all good!

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    Archiving 7 18 89
    First set nice
    Will do 2nd later

    "Ain't noways tired" Jerry ain't tired during US Blues 4 12 78
    Jumpin' Jer Flash

    I know it's 2024. But hearing 7 18 89 makes me yearn ("I yearn, George") for being AT a GD show. 35 years gone.

    Whoever did the shorelines beckon prank needs to be...

    Remember, it's shoreLIGHTS, not shorelines. The prankster let loose a tell.

    A few hours of work and then back to Alpine

    One more: the cover art for the sleeve of the 5/4/77 is totally off the mark for the glorious GD on the disc. I really dislike the tagger image (taggers deserve to have their fingers broken). Opportunity to create my own cover art, I say.

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    Now The Shorelines Beckon

    It's easy to make a script, put it up on a monitor and make a screenshot of it. That doesn't make it genuine. Various punters searched for the script but none found it. The conclusion was that it was a fake, but some people obviously believed it.

    Conclusion: Never trust a Prankster.

  • Gary Farseer
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    MSG box is way better than most that do not have it realize. Sure the sound is different from a Betty Board as it is on cassette. But, it does have a great stereo image. That image, in my own opinion, does have the line arrays embedded in it. To date, I havent even run the MSG box thru the equalizer, but I am going to. Just thought of that now.

    My home town arena is 50% the size of MSG. And I mean 50%, as the local arena was built with MSG's blue prints; only, dimensions are 50% smaller. When listening to great sounding groups, say like Yes, we always sat in the upper deck directly in the middle (straight on shot of the stage.) This allowed us to have great stereo sound out of an old concrete arena.

    The playing within the box is superb.

    G

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    NOW THE SHORELINES BECKON: HAWAII/ALASKA '70 '80

    Who put this out there and even showed a script type picture shot of this being the 2024 Box Set?!? IT was on the picture of the script actually showing it as an store.dead.net blah blah....obviously someone found this behind the IT wall or something???
    WHY the f is this not the box set this year??? I mean I get it that those April 1978 shows are popular, even gimmicky(Jerry at Duke), and OF COURSE Betty Boards....but lets be honest: the setlist are VERY repetitive, Jerry sounds out of tune in most of the shows, and a bit...ummm, tired, Keith sounds like he is simply plunking notes on a 1978 Sears electric piano(he sure doesn't sound like late-1971 when he joined, and Donna is simply high-pitched screaming on a lot of tunes.
    BOTTOM LINE - How was the above title showing up as a dead.net exclusive on that javascript pic shot, and now it's not the 2024 BOX SET- maybe later this year?!?!?!

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Dave's Picks Vol. 51: Scranton Catholic Youth Center, Scranton, PA (4/13/71)

Look out Big Boss Man, Pigpen's on the loose! We're shedding our lovelight on the not-to-be-overlooked Spring 1971 tour with DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51, featuring the complete unreleased show from the SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 AND the 2nd set from the previous night at the Pittsburgh Civic Arena in Pittsburgh, PA on 4/12/71.

These gems find the original Grateful Dead quintet delivering some of their most inspired, energetic, and tightest performances. There's a dab of WORKINGMAN'S DEAD, a splash of AMERICAN BEAUTY, a great foreshadow into what would soon appear on SKULL & ROSES. And you'll need nearly all those fingers (or those toes) because - count 'em - there's eight classic covers ("Mama Tried," "Hard To Handle," and a rare "I Second That Emotion," to name a few) done as only the Dead could do them with Mr. McKernan and his magical harmonica.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51: SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

P.S. We had a little extra room on Disc 2, so please enjoy the final five DP48 bonus tracks to complete 10/24/70, St. Louis, MO.

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I was there also at that shoreline show still have the canceled tix from the three dead shows that were suppose to happen then.

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The Lurker...yeah right. I lurk too more than I post. I do my best to make sure 90% of posts are GD related. Although I do enjoy when others post about music I may like but undiscovered.

Simon I was communicating with another lurker type and I told him about you seeing an incredible Pink Floyd show in like 1974? This was almost 9 years ago. Maybe you could post that tidbit again.

Obviously, this post has to do with the other 10%.

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Their once a year LP sale includes the 8-LP DiP 33 release. Was $175, now $140. I'd be seriously looking at that if I had not ordered the Devils Box. You already got this one Dennis?
Cheers

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I think you may be referring to the Garden Party at the Crystal Palace Bowl in London in 1971. It was a great one-day event featuring Quiver, Mountain (loud!), The Faces and Pink Floyd. I was rather spaced out at the time. A pretty accurate article on the day's antics can be found at:
loudersound dot com/features/pink-floyd-garden-party-1971

Pink Floyd played:
Atom Heart Mother, Careful With That Axe Eugene, Fat Old Sun, Return Of The Son Of Nothing ( prototype Echoes ), Set the Controls, Embryo, Saucerful Of Secrets. Encore : Astromony Domine.

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guess you were right. I remember the part about they lake and the comment a little more precise about the spaced out part.

WOW, didnt realize '71!

Ever found/heard a recording?

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There was a lot of good acid around at the time and I was lysergically enhanced for the duration. When we went for a stroll, my mate and I were under the impression that we were being stalked by a pair of park wardens, one tall thin one and one short fat one. Strangely, they appeared to us to be dressed in Bavarian attire. It was a great day out, despite the vagaries of the English weather. Apparently there is an audience recording of dubious quality but I've never heard it. I recall the live surround sound being very impressive.

Yet more info can be found at:

ukrockfestivals dot com/Garden-party-71.html

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The two keystone cops comment made me bust out laughing. Nothing better than a sunrise laugh.

Gonna be a good day!

Edit: Or as Jim would say, "chortle my coffee."

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Dicks 33,,, yes I have.

Just ordered the CSN&Y fillmore 69 cd (from amazon, free shipping and will get day it comes out, they didn't seem to offer the LP)

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Been having some stereo issues. Part of me wants to upgrade. Cant remember who turned us on to the Amazon (Klipsch) Subwoofer deal last month. But didnt buy, now my 4.8 year old subwoofer may have gone kaput. Will take some time to go thru wiring.

Also have considered buying a self powered speakers, instead of using old Yamahas. Dang, the - JBL 4329P Studio Monitor Powered Loudspeaker. Look awesome. Problem, $4500 for to extremely high powered self contained studio monitors. Reviews are very positive. Just too much power and way too heavy. Read online review, I think it said each one ways 171lbs and produces a SPL of 141db. Wow, who needs that. Maybe some day, if I get my barn built.

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This past year went from a Denon and Polks to a two channel Marantz and a pair of Denali. Wow. Wish I had done that years ago. Where to from there? Seems plenty for a 850 square foot floor plan.

"171lbs and produces a SPL of 141db...." no idea what that means but makes me think of my Black Sabbath aficionado friend that has a subwoofer as heavy as a refrigerator.

Oh yeah, gotta keep it GD related: in the car today was 10/19/72 from Listen to the River. Phil's lines in Jack Straw get me every time!

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....I like adjusting the knobs and switches on the back of it so it's just exactly perfect for what is on the menu at the time.

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For Phishermen, the following free article popped in my news feed on Phish - “ Four Days With Phish, America's Greatest Jam Band for 40 Years and Counting” - originally published in GQ Magazine (!). (Have Phish gone bespoke!?)
Good article, should be available to one and all.

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I have a DVD+R
""data dvd"

that I inherited from my friend Craig.

It has FLACs of
5/10/80
10/31/80
4/19/82
7/1/85

If anyone wants it, speak up here.

Mailing info via PM

I'll even pay the postage

I just want it to have a good home

....R-120SW. Putting it to use now. Listening to Vampire Weekend.
I've been known to phish in the pool of jams.

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That's right $1.00 to see the Jerry Garcia band , with Bill Kreutzman playing drums. The show was at the Concord Pavilion and was a benefit for a local radio station. Queen Ida and her Zydeco Band opened the show. Big Fun! 4 days out from the start of the best run at the Greek Theatre,. Fun times, indeed.

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Think it will be a Vince years one.. my guess; Wembley 10/31/90.. BW from Copenhagen

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Sadly Zoot Money died today as well. A stalwart of British r'n'b - but to me his crowning glory was the short lived Dantalians Chariot. Also featuring future Policeman Andy Summers, they cut one of the all great British psychedelic singles "Madman Running Through The Fields". No compilation of the era is complete without it. And not many are.

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Pig Pen would have been 79 years old today. The Grateful Dead played their best music when Pig Pen was in the band.. .

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Where IS everybody..

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Like my favorite French-Canadian mouse would say, "Savoir-Faire eez everywhere!"

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Fleetwood Mac - Future Games LP
DiP 15 - Englishtown 9-3-77
Steppin' Out w/ the GD - Europe '72
Tom Petty - Full Moon Fever
JGB - Garcia Live Vol. 4, 3-22-78 Veteran's Hall
Cheers

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commentary just dwindles (dwindle...fun word)

I post more now on "what are you listening to"

Savior Faire is everywhere...now there is a phrase I have not heard in a long time

I have been so busy and stretched that I haven't listened to 50 or 51 yet. So I mostly lurk here.

I'll be sure to comment when I get that first listen in.

Argh...

On the bright side, I am starting to be home more and are squaring things away plus, the second to last song I listened to was Jerry singing "On the Bright Side of the Road" So things are looking up.

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Jazz Fans - A new edition in Miles Davis’ Bootleg Series coming early November, “ MILES IN FRANCE 1963 & 64”, featuring his “Second” Great Quintet (ie - post Coltrane). Dennis, this one is for you, available in LP and CD. Oro, if you want to really “get” jazz, Miles Davis is perhaps the apex, so important from the late 40s into the 90s, an innovator along the lines of Dylan or the Dead. I’m partial to his electric period, where he got really out there, but any of his stuff is worth the listen.
Bill Graham was an absolute genius IMHO for some of the bills he put together at his Fillmore (and more) venues, including putting Miles on to open for the Dead, leaving Phil Lesh gap-jawed, and feeling unworthy of following his act. Graham introduced so many interesting acts to the mainstream listener that might never have happened without his vision. I highly recommend the book “Bill Graham Presents” for more on this incredible guy, who did so much to bring us the Dead, among many others.

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Bill Graham brought lots of blues artists to the Fillmore West like Muddy Waters, Howlin Wolf , James Cotton and others . The great Mike Bloomfield told Graham that these were musicians he should be booking.

Ok, I ordered the Boot 8 cd's. Haven't bought the vinyl. 100 bucks for the cd's was enough for now, the 225 for the lp's would have stretched me open to the point of fearing the pool.

They didn't seem "limited", thought I could ask for vinyl at christmas.

I seem to have all the miles boot series, at least in mp3. A quick look and I seem to have several in physical media (cd & LP)

Because of someone else, I'm listening to Nick Cave and wondering if I should get his new album :-)

FYI - I bought miles on amazon,,, they always come on the release day and free shipping!

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Dennis - Smart move on ordering the Miles boot from Amazon, much quicker with free shipping. I did order a t-shirt once from the Miles site, and it was pretty quick delivery, but definitely not free shipping.
A few sites offer bootlegs “on demand”, for lack of a better term. You order a bootleg from the choices they offer, they have it produced, and it is sent by a third party (Nugs dot net) - I have two shows on order for Pearl Jam now like this, and I know the Allman’s site has something similar, choose the show(s) you want of the ones offered, and they produce a disc for you. An interesting way to do it, and something Dead net should consider, although that may make Dave Lemieux redundant.
Has Perry Ferrell got a problem with Dave Navarro, or what!? I’ve seen a lot of shows, but I never saw two musicians start fighting. Kinda sucks for the Boston audience that had a shortened show.

don't know about these guys, but the vid I watched 30 seconds of, it looked like Ferral was spaced out? Big time drugs?

but a wow moment for sure,,,, I bet tom petty felt that way when prince went off on a riff in "while my guitar...."

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Dennis - maybe I'm not understanding - it was unrehearsed and a wild ride but don't think Petty had any issues with Prince and the outro solo.

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My wife's cousins were at that show. They said Bass and Drums were spot on and Dave was good, but Perry was not good. Perry F'd up several songs and did not appreciate the band guiding him. Navarro had words with him during the show and it escalated over the last three songs.

There's a performance with about a dozen guys paying a tribute to George Harrison. They're playing while my guitar gently weeps. Everyone passes around the lead, gets to prince and he takes off. Several times it looked like petty was ready to drop out jamming and get back to song, but prince kept on. Tom was looking a little peeved.

Maybe it was just me. But prince really stole that track!

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Amazing what they're finding in those old archives these days.

A recent review of Nixon's office tapes (you know, the ones that caught him planning Watergate and discussing the illegal bombing Cambodia and whatnot) turned up a reference to pot. Which Tricky Dicky said was "not particularly dangerous." He even seems to consider legalization, but concludes that "it would be the wrong message at this time."

Well, blow me down. Sure wish he would've said so back then, instead of, you know, launching the War on Drugs and sending so many kind and decent people to prison.

And almost equally mind boggling it is to learn of the existence of this new Miles set. Which should be amazing.

That 'Second Great Quintet' with Herbie and Wayne is in some ways the most interesting of all his bands. The "other" quintet with Coltrane is maybe a better place to start, if anybody reading this is new to jazz and just starting to check out Miles. The Miles/Trane group more or less defined mainstream straight ahead jazz and if you're at all open to jazz you're going to love the Cookin/Workin/Steamin/Relaxin records they did.

But the 'second' quintet? Damn. If the Miles/Trane group built the house, the Wayne/Herbie band blew the fucking roof off. This new set of recordings from what I think must've been their first tour together should be amazing. Probably a little more "inside" than the far out stuff you hear on the Plugged Nickel live set, which might be a good thing. It's a must have, for me anyway.

So, thanks for the heads up on that one! Can't wait.

Meanwhile, UPS says that my copy of Jack White's new lp is out for delivery. Can't wait to slap that thing on and crank it up.

Dennis - I’ll bet you will have that damn Nancy Sinatra song roiling around your head the rest of the day now! 🎶🎶 Damn boots!!!
You’re welcome! ;)
Crow - I agree on the Second Quintet vs the Trane Quintet - the Second was far more dynamic, a much more interesting band. All of them went on to have pretty amazing careers on their own, as well.

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Well the song will probably not be rattlin' around, but Nancy in them!

Hope I didn't type here, but listening to Dylan Theme radio, girls names. For Nancy, a song sinatra sung.

Nancy with the laughing face. Written about Nancy when she was born. Written by.... Phil Silvers!

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What makes that band interesting to me is the rhythm section - Herbie Hancock, Ron Carter on bass and Tony Williams on drums. My favourite records by them are ESP and Milestones. A great live one is the First Bootleg - 4cds from 1967. I prefer this to the Plugged Nickel set, which seems a bit cautious by comparison.

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Thanks DaveRock, was about to note Carter and Williams essential contributions to the Second Quintet. Williams was 17 years old when he joined Miles group. What an incredible crucible those five created. Heading off to northern Vermont tonight, concert with Tom Gershwin Quintet. Heard of this performance from a chance conversation with Grant Gordy after his gig with Mr. Sun Tuesday in Massachusetts. Never seen Grant on electric guitar.

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....just got back from five glorious days in Sedona with my wife celebrating our 25th anniversary.
Need. More. Vacations. And a hot tub.
And more Taylor Swift if you know what I mean. Childless Cat Lady ftw.

....I knew I was blessed then.
Good shit Brent.
Jerry just keeping the train chuggin'"
BTW, we took the Verde Canyon Train Trip in AZ during our stay there.
They piped in train songs the whole time. Big RxR Blues leaving and returning from the station.
Freight Train from Not For Kids Only also.....I pointed it out to my wife.
She just shook her head and smiled.

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Ya know, this {#51} was a fine pick, from an interesting show and locale with great extras. I love a Pig era Dead set that qualifies as a "Phil Show" and many of these gigs from 1971 are. Similar to the "Ladies & Gentlemen Philmore" and 'HouseBoat tapes' (Dick's#35) this was indeed a Phil Show. Aside from the sonic anomalies I truly enjoyed this 'bar band era' pick, especially the Pig songs and jams, it just took awhile to give the album a listen. I was pretty busy with stuff. Also nice to have a Dave Pick covering this Spring 1971 era.

Now, as for #52, I have been doing some research and wouldn't mind say 3/27/91? This is one of a few rare Dead shows with the JGB song Reuben and Cherise. Also there's a Bob Dylan cover in both sets, "All Along the Watchtower" which was always played well in the later era and "Maggie's Farm" a 1990s staple. Anyways Dave has probably already got this one on the press so it's all wishlist speculation now!

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I was at that show. A buddy and I drove from MD to NY, and discovered early on I had a headlight out. That damn Honda always had a headlight out, was very nerve wracking. Anyway, we tilted both bulbs downward and turned on the high beams, problem solved. Then, got massively tailed in NJ for like 10 minutes, and we were holding plenty let me tell ya. THEN, I witnessed the only fist fight I ever saw at a show, two van loads of drunk NY wanna be heads going at each other. It was bitterly cold and we got stuck outside the venue because we had taken a cab. Long, strange, day and night...

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First, glad to have this one, appreciation has grown, it being of a particular time and energy, unique. Dave does not remind us like the early on Dicks, its warts and all, there might be some bumps but its going to be better than anything else already out there. That said, the hot vocals on disc one did bother at first, but if I started out listening to it from far away, like another room, it wasn't so tough, move closer in and more appreciate discs 2 and 3 which make the cake. If we didn't comment on this stuff, who knows what else could happen!

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Does Dave go with 52? I'm sticking with a 90's show namely 9/26/91.

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March 27 1991 Nassau

yeah, March winds blew in from the west and temps dropped from mid- 60's to upper 30's in a couple of hours;
car parks next to us, the driver's door opens and a hellacious gust of wind blows the car door out of the drivers hand, smack into my new cheap Isuzu Trooper and leaves a 2 inch dent in my passenger door, lol. light up another!

HIAB so high the crowd's energy and sure we knew cold rain would find it's way into the set tonight,
and such a different feel to tonight's show without the grand / Bruce.

row jimmy row
maggie's (go Vinny go)(Phil take Bruce's verse, cool)
loose lucy

1st notes of Rubin and the looks on our faces.... whhaaatttt????

My buddy and I would greet each other for several years after this show with the simple phrase...
scarlet, fire, estimated, uncle john's with high 5's,
we loved this show, and
if I walked up to Paulie today,
and said those five words,
it would be understood between us (33 yrs later)
...big smiles & high 5's all over again.

so, yeah, I'm with RYXS to release this one!

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